Down With Social

Social is immeasurable and a waste of time.

This article was published on August 25, 2010.
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I admit to having ridden the social media bandwagon from the start — mainly because I had to see how things would play out — but I've always been skeptical about its impact. Is anyone reading what you have to say? Do they even care? With so much information flowing, how can anything be absorbed? The same goes for social features accompanying products. Does friending and following add value to your product or is it a distraction? Value to me is measured in dollar signs — not pageviews and certainly not friend requests or follow count.

Down With Social

Don't Hire Social Media People

I'm going to offend a lot of people with this statement, but I don't think there's a place for a "social media" person (what some people refer to as a "community manager") in your company. Tweeting, Tumblring, Facebooking, blogging, etc., are all routine tasks that can be performed by any person out there with basic English skills and a friendly personality. The person doing this can also be the founder, a developer, a marketing person or the person that answers email. It's just not a full-time job.

The benefits of having someone dedicated to these tasks, whatever they may be, don't add up to a wise use of resources. As Leo Laporte wrote last week after he discovered that nobody was listening despite his tens of thousands of followers: "I was shouting into a vast echo chamber where no one could hear me because they were too busy shouting themselves. All this time I've been pumping content into the void like some chatterbox Onan."

At Carbonmade, we just announced our fifth full-time person, Mike Minnick, who has been handling emails and what nowadays constitutes social media stuff for us during the past few months part-time. Mike is great at his job. The impact Mike has had since he started working with us has been amazing, but it primarily comes in the form of quick and thorough email responses — something measurable — rather than in numbers of new followers.

Mike is atypical. He didn't go to college. Instead he toured the world as the lead singer of a Hardcore band called Curl Up and Die — it had a large cult following — and worked most of the past few years at a comic book store. He's covered in tattoos, but one of the nicest guys I know with a personality so charming that everyone (man or woman) who meets him falls in love.

But Mike wasn't hired to tweet for us. We hired him around a measurable need (responding to customers' emails) rather than a fantasy. That's what the concept that drives "social media" is. It's a fantasy that having 100 or 1,000 more friends or followers will bring you more business even though social networks are nothing more than echo chambers in which nobody is listening.

Not Every Product Needs to Be Social!

There's an obvious difference between social media and having social features on your website. The former is a marketing technique and the latter is a product feature. Social features certainly make sense on some sites, but, as with gaming mechanics, they are way overused, often incorrectly.

Carbonmade is evidence that every website doesn't need to launch with social features to be popular and successful. We're the largest online portfolio website with over 250,000 portfolios and counting — all without a single social feature. Madness?

We're not Facebook. We're not a social network and probably your company isn't either. We don't necessarily need or want our users talking and friending each other. Instead of spending valuable development hours on hooking in social networking features, we'd rather spend them on our unique product. You can only force-feed people the same features on every site before they'll all revolt: "Boring! I've seen that before."

Now with some products it makes sense: Foursquare, for example, because it is a social platform, with game mechanics their bread and butter. It makes sense for them because they are building toward exactly what they want to be: a social platform. They're not just tacking social features onto a product that doesn't require them. Please stop doing that.

On the flip side, I'm scared for Foursquare because their product really is only social, and with the launch of Facebook Places, there's little to differentiate them. However, they're very smart folks at Foursquare, and I'm confident they'll survive by figuring out how to reinvent themselves.

Measuring Matters

I'm happy to see more and more companies being built around the idea of analytics. Analytics have been around for a while — mainly analytics that measure web traffic, like Google Analytics — but now we're seeing another group of companies looking at measuring in a different way. Those companies include KISSmetrics, Chartbeat, StatsMix, Chart.io and others. I think these forms of quantifying are important.

Social media marketing can't be measured, at least not effectively. Spending money on social media marketing reminds me of the early 2000s, when you couldn't measure the effectiveness of banner ads. Everyone was spending on it without knowing what the outcome was. This trend ended up dying out when a more measurable and effective advertisement system came in: Google's AdWords. Companies began to be focused on click-through ratio and conversions rather than pageviews (the modern day equivalent of pageviews being followers/friends).

If I weren't working on Carbonmade, I'd be working on better ways to analyze and measure data effectively. Numbers don't lie, and there's a lot of incoming data that needs making sense of. I anticipate huge fallout for companies over the next 12 to 24 months because they were built around too many assumptions about the vitality of the social space and not enough concrete, measurable facts. Social media marketing, social features and game mechanics will prove to have been the culprits.

Comments

Pasquale about 1 year ago

Being social is important if you are a freelancer though:

Every single piece of work I've produced since 2005 has been through a web referral, a visitor to my site, or a twitter follower.

It's important if your work is tied to your personality, which in my case — is very much the case.

Greg about 1 year ago

What about people who use social media as a form of customer support? Hulu support does a good job of this. I've tweeted back and forth with them about issues I've had. This is similar to support emails and is a good use of social media.

I think it's dangerous to have one person be responsible for outside communication (social media, support emails, etc.) That one person can be a bottle neck and important info might not flow into the company.

I think rotating the social media/support email tasks makes sense (or have the founders spend time on it each week.)

There is outside feedback that founders need to hear first hand. Any filter that gets in the way can be a problem.

Eric Friedman about 1 year ago

As always Spencer, a very thoughtful post. I tend to agree with most of what you say. I think that I would apply the term ''social person'' to EVERY employee from BD to engineers. I think having this ingrained in every position is the best way to instill a specific type of culture that is not afraid to talk openly. The opposite works for some companies (see Apple) but I think most need to have this trait.

palbi about 1 year ago

I disagree when you say that social media mktg is not measurable.
I guess the real point is that lots of people are just not measuring the right metrics
Tons of followers? Who cares about them if they are not really engaged
I believe companies like Zappos, Amazon and Groupon, instead, are leveraging very well on their twitter presence to make good money. The key is that they are not merely satisfied to check on their follower count but bring in much more sophisticated analytics on sales and lead conversion

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Pasquale: I'm all for going out there and being social and reaching out. It's just that being a ''social media'' person is not a full-time job. Like you said, though, ''it's important that your work is tied to your personality.'' The thing is that you're actually the person that's also producing that work. I think that's the big difference.

TK Stohlman about 1 year ago

Hi Spencer - great post. Agree many people can lose focus and worry too much about ''followers'' and not focus on solving a real problem (and the associated metrics).

Keep up the thoughtful posts!

Colin about 1 year ago

Do you find zero value in social media? That is what your post title suggests. If so why are you still running a carbonmade twitter account?

I agree with some of this post, especially that anyone can do the ''social'' bits for a company. Anyone who can produce content can certainly run twitter, facebbook, blogs etc. It's just another form of marketing.

I do however think that if all you want is to measure in $ it's quite easy to set up link tracking and calculate the number of click throughs that translate to sales.

Maybe the numbers are terrible and show that you should stop. Fair enough, but you can measure it.

Paul about 1 year ago

I think for some companies, social is good: if your customers are talking with each other about the different solutions they've come up with, that's a cross-pollination effect that adds value to your company and to your customer's experience with your products.

Suppose you sell Awesome Really Configurable Widget - each customer has to configure his widget a little differently. If you can get your customers sharing Widget Customizations and giving each other tips, man, that's great! New customers can come in and go, ''hey! This other guy got something working that's like what I need! I'm going to buy from Awesome Widget Company!''

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Greg: I have nothing against assisting over Twitter, Facebook, etc. There's nothing wrong with that per say. However, it's not the best funnel for your support. The best funnel is over the phone, over email, or through a help desk.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Eric: Totally agree. It needs to be ingrained in the culture and less about a company hiring a single person to hop on the bandwagon. This follow the latest trend thing needs to be put to bed.

Omari about 1 year ago

Following socially spread links and seeing how many transfer into completed sales is a brilliant idea. But with the 'social' agenda in its infancy it will still take a few years before useful data is gathered.

The articles point that there is no need for a dedicated social media person stands true, until it can be proven that their is a financial need for them. At the moment, this just isn't possible

As for adding social features, as non-web savvy business are becoming aware of the social eco-system, they are taking a me too approach. Just as seen in the early part of this decade with the realisation that having a website can improve sales for some businesses.

However we are yet to fully realise who this works for with social features.

Nice article!

Jay Cuthrell about 1 year ago

There were a few of those ''we don't have webmasters now'' posts floating around the blog entrails processor. I don't equate the alchemy quality of early webmasters to social media hires today but I also know that web is far from a one person job now -- rather, it's the village of the modern online endeavor. I expect you'll find analytics will be as coveted in the future as old school web log parsing was at one point in time.

I think you'll also find that just as many .com ideas failed so too will social plays on things like... well, deodorant and body wash. Strike that. Something viral occurred. ;-)

Okay, how about a product used in secure environments where obscurity is prized. Not a huge Twitter/Facebook play there.

So, I'm in agreement with you but I know everyone likes to trot out edge cases when they feel their turf is being threatened. I think the threat is actually more of a challenge to ''raise your game'' and maybe pick up an understanding of statics, economic models, and things that have impact over some fad-speak terminology about community.

Heather Dougherty about 1 year ago

John Lovett (Web Analytics Demystified) and Jeremiah Owyang (Altimeter & formerly Forrester) — two people at the very top of their game — created a framework for measuring social marketing. It is based on a lot of research, experience and is extremely well thought out and immediately actionable. I would highly recommend taking a look:

http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2010/06/10/slides-and-recording-social-marketing-analytics-research-findings/

Omari about 1 year ago

That slide is very interesting, well worth the viewing

Social marketing has been around for a few years, most of which has been during a global recession. It takes longer to get a real grasp of the trends in a marketplace

Wesley Verhoeve about 1 year ago

As always, an interesting read, Spencer!

I think social media without a purpose is pointless, but social media with a purpose (customer service, notification, customer engagement, etc.) can be very valuable. The goal shouldn't be to have as many followers or friends as possible, but to have a positive relationship with the followers you organically gain that brings quantifiable benefits (customer retention, increased profit per customer, etc.)

Trevor about 1 year ago

As a web developer and social media overseer for a major Canadian University, I completely agree that social media has an over-revered place in business. It's just the next bubble, or like you put it, bandwagon to jump on.

Jodo Kast about 1 year ago

Why allow people to leave comments if 'Social is a waste of time'? Why include a Facebook Like button?

Leaving comments is a big part of social media... practice what you preach.

Jon about 1 year ago

I don't think it's quite fair to describe social media as ''an echo chamber where no one is listening''. IMO doing social media right involves more listening than it does talking. And I don't just mean using a listening platform or sentiment tracking tool - I mean listening to the extent of getting to know key influencers in a particular as people, and establishing relationships with them.

I've seen a lot of interesting conversations unfold across Twitter, Facebook, and various hosted online communities. If no one is listening, how do these conversations happen - for that matter, how does content even get retweeted or spread out the way it does?

People who generate good content certainly have others listening to them. It's not about the number of followers. having 10,000 followers who see you as simply broadcasting content and not actually interacting with people is basically worthless. Having 1,000 followers who you actually engage in conversations with, who you respond to directly and who respond directly to you, who retweet your posts and even blog about it, is worth substantially more. Reach is a lot more important than raw numbers of followers.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Palbi: Yes. But people not in the know think that followers and # of tweets is what makes or breaks your company. Unless you can track strict engagement + signups with Twitter through something like bit.ly then it's a lost cause. Too many companies are too quick to just focus on volume.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Paul: I think there's a misunderstanding that came across from something I said in the article along the lines of ''social is bad''. I never said that and don't believe it. Social is great in the right context and built around the right product. It's just a problem when it gets more attention than the product and is used incorrectly.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Omari: Yeah. The ''me too'' approach is what upsets me the most. People think that all they need is a Facebook page and a Twitter account and they're good to go. Or all they need is to add friends and followers to their product and they'll get loads of users. False and false.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Jay: I think you're 100% correct in that understanding data will be what gathering data was ten years ago. It's where I'm seeing a lot of new companies being built around it.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Heather: Thank you for the link. I've bookmarked it and will check it out later today. I definitely think there's a lot of measuring that can be done, but there's nothing really out there that does it quite right just yet.

Jon about 1 year ago

I'd just like to add, the very fact that I'm commenting here shows that at least some people are listening. Someone tweeted about this post (actually I saw the retweet, not even the original tweet), so I came to check it out.

I'd never heard of Carbonmade before that!

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Wesley: You're absolutely correct. It's about increasing the relationship with your customers rather than trying to force the relationship.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Trevor: I hope that's not irony. ;)

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Jodo: Leaving comments isn't social media. People commenting on articles has been around since the dawn of print. They just take the form of written responses on a webpage these days rather than letters to the editor.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Jon: I totally agree about the reach and the engagement. That's all well and good. And I think that form of ''social media'' helps more than it hurts. My qualm is with people not understanding that social media is just a fancy term for good customer service. People don't understand how to use it properly and it takes on this ''me too'' attitude. I've seen companies that have a Facebook page before they have a product! WTF?

C Scho about 1 year ago

If only I could get the people I work with to realize that having 1.3M twitter followers doesn't mean anything if money isn't coming through the door.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

C Scho: It feels like most big companies are much more happy to follow the trends than to try and understand the reasons behind the trend. It's pathetic.

Rod about 1 year ago

I find it kind of interesting that you've included a place to leave comments (a social act).

Regarding your article, total bullshit...people have been social throughout the ages and ''social media'' is simply an alternate way for people to interact which, again, is what you are doing with these comments...you are too funny!

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Rod: I appreciate your comments, but where are you getting that I'm saying ''social'' is a crock of shit? I'm not saying that at all. What I've written is that there's so much information out there that it can get lost in an echo chamber. It's hard to measure who is listening. It's hard to measure how effective any single tweet or follower is. People are using these tools in the wrong ways. You have to direct your social media around a measurable need and most companies out there are failing to do that.

Phil about 1 year ago

Social media is just an enabling technology for people who suffer from Axis II - Cluster B personality disorders to spew nonsense about their lives. If your product caters to Histronics and BPDs then it is a great channel for selling your wares. If your customer doesn't suffer from social anxiety, depression, or some other mental illness then you are wasting your time.

Giff about 1 year ago

Another nice post. Totally agree social has its place but not everything has to be social, at least within the walls of each application. There is fatigue out there that application designers should pay attention to.

afed about 1 year ago

I agree :)

ajsbsd about 1 year ago

People used to argue with my twitter bot that sent updates from irc.

imo social media is irc that is trying to pretend its not a waste of time.

Mark Mulder about 1 year ago

While I agree with your basic premise that ''social media'' is the biggest and most meaningless internet buzzword since ''Web 2.0'', I was baffled to see that you mention Foursquare as an exception. I find Foursquare to be right at the heart of what is wrong with social media. So far it has added nothing of value to any companies which are embracing it, and from a user's standpoint, it's one of the biggest polluters of my Facebook news feed, that along with Farmville and Mafia Wars. Since I really don't give a damn about when my friends are dropping by Starbucks, I have subsequently hidden all Foursquare updates from my news feed. I know others who are equally annoyed and have done the same.

Social media has its benefits to a certain degree. As with everything in life, moderation is key. Foursquare is one example of taking it way too far, or addressing a non-existent demand (or just a demand which hasn't matured yet). Down with Foursquare.

Adam about 1 year ago

very interesting article make me really think about all the social media hype .

''The same goes for social features accompanying products. Does friending and following add value to your product or is it a distraction? Value to me is measured in dollar signs'' . ,

im inclined to think that social features do add value (somewhat) to your product , say im shopping for shoes i snap a pic share it on twitter/facebook and ask my friends what they think ? and if the sentiment is good i may be persuaded to purchase the product ? im not sure if this example falls within the above statement but what do you think ? also if i follow a product and my friends see that i've shown interest in a product/services they may also want to sign up / purchase the product .

steve olenski about 1 year ago

What is the basis of social media? the word ''social'' right?

The operative word here is social... social able... sociable.

so·cia·ble
–adjective
1.
inclined to associate with or be in the company of others.
2.
friendly or agreeable in company; companionable.

The key in business has ALWAYS been to be sociable has it not?

Now, in addition to the telephone (remember that?) and emails, we as marketers/biz owners/etc can and should be sociable via these new channels that are available to us... i.e. those categorized as Social Media!

I'm beginning to think its all semantics!!!

Calgon, take me away! (showing my age)

Jon Crowley about 1 year ago

I think you've made a false (but interesting) divide between what is and isn't 'social'.

If you're arguing that companies don't need someone tweeting and using facebook exclusively, sure, you may have a point. But the assumption that CRM through email is measurably more valuable than CRM via twitter, facebook, or blog comments doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

If an email response is your definition of 'measureable' (even though 1 of your 2 criteria, 'thorough' is a qual judgement) then simply counting replies to mentions is the same version of measurable. Twitter is people talking. Facebook is people talking.

If email isn't people talking, I've been using it wrong for 13 years.

The core issue seems to be your definition - you're argument makes perfect sense if, and Laporte said, social media is exclusively an echo chamber to talk about yourself.

Laporte's argument was that no one noticed when his tweets weren't sending, him included. That tells me he was using a conversation tool as a broadcast tool, and probably shouldn't be calling his use of twitter 'social'.

''pumping content into the void''? I'd argue that someone who considers a social channel a place to 'pump content' isn't the voice of reason, here.

Anyway, you're obviously entitled to your opinion, and I may just be misunderstanding your argument. Thanks for sharing.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Giff: I love how you use the word fatigue. That's exactly what it is. There's certainly a place for social features in social apps, but there's not necessarily room for social on every single app out there.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

ajsbsd: There's a lot in your comparison between IRC and social media these days. A lot of it is just talk. That's why you see companies restricting access to Twitter and Facebook so that people will get work done.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Mark: The reason I use Foursquare as an example of when it's okay to build social features into your app is because they are building exactly what they want to be: a social app. You may not agree about whether it has any value or not, but it's the type of app where social belongs.

Tom Markiewicz about 1 year ago

Thanks for the mention of StatsMix.

Generally I agree with all your points. What we're starting to see is less of a focus on the social media metrics themselves and more of a holistic view of how they fit with an overall set of business metrics.

The number of Twitter followers or re-tweets aren't actionable metrics for a business, but if you can understand what else those metrics may be correlated with in your business, then they become important.

Social media metrics should be viewed as one component of a set of metrics that can tell a story about how the business is performing.

Rick Hocutt about 1 year ago

I arrived at this post and discovered your site from someone's Twitter feed ;)

Sim about 1 year ago

Agree on most part but not '' social networks are nothing more than echo chambers in which nobody is listening.''

Community manager is important in marketing a product. It is a very tedious job and require a lot of energy. If no one is listening to you, then you not doing a very good job.

Jon about 1 year ago

To expand on Sim's point - the question of whether or not to hire a Community Manager depends a lot on how big your company is, what kind of traffic you get, and the nature of your industry.

Having the person who writes and answers email also take care of Twitter and Facebook content makes sense if you're a small company and don't have a huge amount of email content to write and your social efforts are fairly small scale. But if you're a massive corp with an entire email department and planned content in multiple social channels, managing all of that can be a full time job simply due to the amount of content.

And if you're company has a hosted online community - for example a set of popular and fast moving messageboards - then you definitely need a community manager to handle that community, not only in terms of dealing with the technical necessities of the boards themselves but appointing/hiring moderators, planning out content and new focal points for discussion, and so on. A successful community is very active and needs a point person to keep track of everything - and depending on the needs of that community, managing it can absolutely be a full time job (and then some).

Grant about 1 year ago

“Not Every Product Needs to Be Social!”

Whew. I love that line so much that I need to see it repeated again:

“Not Every Product Needs to Be Social!”

Maybe just one more time…

“Not Every Product Needs to Be Social!”

Great article Spencer!

Nate Turner about 1 year ago

Great article.

My biggest take away is that numbers don't lie. I rely heavily on analytics data to develop strategy and I feel that social media and customer service are a good way to understand the needs of your customers, rather than making decisions purely on data.

I also find it refreshing that Carbonmade doesn't feel the need to include social features.

Nice work!

Stephan Barrett about 1 year ago

Great talking points.

I've come to believe social media = customer service. The point of listening to your customers via social spaces is to help them more. The problem, IMO? What is no one is talking about my product or service in social spaces? Every company doesn't have the same problem.

Helping without asking for something in return can build trust. People look for trusted companies to do business with. Voila, the ROI of social media.

It is hard to measure. Just like it's hard to measure how much trust a person needs to buy from a company. This much? A little more?

I believe answering email = customer service = social media. Don't get lost in the semantics.

@Tom: I agree with your evaluation of Social media metrics.

Jamie about 1 year ago

Having a social media person is really vital to certain organizations, especially once they reach a certain size and especially for non-profits who use it as an education tool as much as a communication/relationship-building one. The people involved shouldn't be limited to one individual necessarily, but having someone coordinating a consistent message is essential for effective social media usage.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Tom: There's certainly data to be found in your social media presence online. The problem that I'm trying to highlight is that nobody has quite figured out what that data is. I keep hearing there's actionable data in the noise, but nobody is stepping up to say what that is!

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Jon: I think you make a good point. Scale is definitely an issue and when you have a very large community you may need someone dedicated to handling that or you'll incur information overload and do a poor job. My qualm is more about wondering where the actionable data is. What is it? Where can I find it? How do I measure it? That sort of stuff.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Grant: Thank you!

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Stephan: Fair points. I agree with you that social media is another arm of customer service. I just think that it's a second rate arm. Trust is better built through email, phone (see Zappos' success), and product.

Jon about 1 year ago

btw, since you occasionally say things like ''where are you getting that I'm saying 'social' is a crock of shit? I'm not saying that at all'' in your comments, apparently in surprise that people think you are completely dismissing social media - if you want to know the source of that idea I'd draw your attention to your own sub-headline, in which you strongly declare that social is ''worthless''. ;)

Yes, attention getting headlines get attention but if that's not what you really want to say, don't say it.

Jon about 1 year ago

Sorry, you didn't say ''worthless'' you said ''waste of time'' which isn't much different.

Bonifer about 1 year ago

Very good observations, Spencer. 'Social media' is a description that is so amorphous as to be essentially meaningless. In fact, all media are social.

The most social medium is sexual intimacy, followed (preceded if we're talking chronology) by meaningful face-to-face conversation, scaling out from there in relevance, eventually reaching the nebulous netherworld of thoughtless Likes, meaningless Tweets and snarky YouTube comments.

What's usually ignored in conversations about social media is the Narrative. Narrative is the force that makes media meaningful. It provides context for information that would otherwise appear as random. The reason social messaging echos and evaporates is that it's not connecting with a narrative. (A hashtag does not a narrative make!)

I predict that the most relevant aspect of social media will turn out to be the lens it afford us with which to perceive narratives. We are, I believe, at a stage in the history of narratology that parallels where physics was at the turn of the last century, when the science moved from the Newtonian to the Quantum.

Marketers who use social media as you have described it, as a fashion statement, are doomed to keep firing blanks at a target they cannot see.

Those who use it as a lens on narrative, will be able to direct 'particles of meaning' at the quantum narrative made visible and capture the massive energy predictably released by the interactions.

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Bonifer: Love how you express that narrative is what's needed for true engagement. I think there's something there if people can better track narrative over time on an individual customer basis. Individual customer tracking through social media is better than general company tracking.

Danny Bos about 1 year ago

I couldn't agree more.

The company I'm currently contracted to recently went through the banal hiring process in search of a ''social media manager''.

It makes no sense at all to hire a brand new person with zero company history, let alone product understanding within the company to be the social face.

The social element of any site needs a face that lives, breathes and sleeps face down on the sites nav bar, a personality that's smells of the HTML and is constantly busted ringing RackSpace asking how the server is today, ''is it too hot, too cold?''

Anyway, you're spot on. The person who's knee-deep in the product in the first place can find the time to talk to the fans.

Jim Goings about 1 year ago

As someone that hates facebook, but loves twitter... I hear you.

For me, social is important on a personal level as I love being connected to other people in a convenient way. The trick here is that I get to choose the people.

Facebook is too unwieldy for me. I want to use it because everyone I know does. But I hate it. It's so laden down with business trying to make money in my face. In a way, it interferes with meaningful social interaction.

It is true that much of today's use of social is people shouting with no one listening, but I do feel that there is a place for business in the social space.

For example, I love getting twitter updates from vendors, but hate email. I feel like brevity is key. Also, ''tweets'' from companies seem to be more interesting and raw than the crap that comes via email.

I say down with email! So far, no one has come up with a viable replacement.

Sabine Taylor about 1 year ago

If leveraged correctly than social media can help a company spread their message. It is just a pull strategy...the real work is how a company pushes that customer. Are there deals, is the customer being treated with respect, etc. When both strategies are in place then companies should see an increase in sales. @live_alpharetta

Spencer Fry about 1 year ago

Danny: Thanks! I'm happy you enjoyed the article. Hiring someone with zero experience to take over the outlet of a company's brand is just insane to me.